What's the matter?

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What's the matter?

Postby Mario » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:36 pm

I'm astonished about an empty MTP Forum. :shock: What's the matter?
It would be glad to have your explanation.

I'll hope this is not the end of a great product?!
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Re: What's the matter?

Postby Hotch » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:23 pm

MasterTracks pro is still available for Windows.

We had to discontinue the Mac version temporarily until we can rebuild it as version 7.
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Re: What's the matter?

Postby Mario » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:48 am

Hi Hotch,

Thank you for the information. I thought as much.
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Re: What's the matter?

Postby PwrHsePro » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:28 pm

WHEW!!!!

I really hope like everyone else concerned, that the new version comes out soon....

You will advise what you feel is a comprable product if you do stop production, won't you?

I must admit, that although I have soley used Master Tracks since the mid-early 90's that Ihave been having problems with it running on varous newer than XP operating systems... and this has caused me to sek out a different product...

I need something basic, like Master Tracks, that is designed for used by traditionally trained muscicians, I like sellecting a track, playing the part into the sequencer, and seeing and being able to maipulate the musical notes on a staff... All the other windows to me are almost worthless... yet I can not find anoter product to do this... at least not easily...

I love Master Tracks, for these selfish reasons, however....

Thanx and I can be patient!
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Re: What's the matter?

Postby polarbreeze » Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:41 am

PwrHsePro wrote:I like sellecting a track, playing the part into the sequencer, and seeing and being able to maipulate the musical notes on a staff... All the other windows to me are almost worthless...
If that's what you want, perhaps you should be considering MusicTime or Encore instead.
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Re: What's the matter?

Postby Mario » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:03 pm

PwrHsePro wrote:I must admit, that although I have soley used Master Tracks since the mid-early 90's that Ihave been having problems with it running on varous newer than XP operating systems... and this has caused me to sek out a different product...


That was the reason why I bought MTP 6.8.4 this year.
I used MTP since 1995 as version 6.01 but it's difficult to run this 16-bit software on 32-bit OS. Unfortunately the Version 6.8.4 has bugs notably if you saving with extension .mid.
Furthermore if I load a .mid or .mts file the instrument settings will not assumed. Not before I select the instrument window the instrument settings are correct.

But I patient too. :D

Merry X-mas GVOX and all users.
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Re: What's the matter?

Postby PwrHsePro » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:39 pm

Regarding switching from MasterTracks Pro to MusicTime or Encore... I do not do any printing of sheet music or scores... I do a lot of midi sequencing and need all of the editing and filtering features of MTP... I strip tracks into multiple tracks and reassign sounds.... I strip composite sequences into multiple tracks... lots of shifting of note durations and velocities... lots of adding/deleting notes...

In my searching... I am thinking people like me you do mega sequencing are a dying breed... everything seems to be concentrating on manipulation of audio files.... replacing analogue recording gear... but not much for improvements and furtehr developement of the 'automated musician' and environment!
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Re: What's the matter?

Postby Mario » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:57 pm

Hotch wrote:MasterTracks pro is still available for Windows.

We had to discontinue the Mac version temporarily until we can rebuild it as version 7.


The year draws to a close... What are the prospects for a bug-free MTP Windows version? When can we reckon with MTP 7?
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Re: What's the matter?

Postby notes_norton » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:30 am

PwrHsePro wrote:<...>
In my searching... I am thinking people like me you do mega sequencing are a dying breed... everything seems to be concentrating on manipulation of audio files.... replacing analogue recording gear... but not much for improvements and furtehr developement of the 'automated musician' and environment!


I'm with you. Recording audio is nice, but MIDI is much more editable and much easier to use. I've been using MTPro since the 1980s, first on the Atari, then the Mac (Motorola chips) and finally the PC. It's the easiest and most direct sequencer there is. There have been serious bugs in it for over 10 years now.

I'm saddened that GVox has abandoned it and it's too bad that GVox has abandoned us :(

Personally, I don't think a fix is ever coming.
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Re: What's the matter?

Postby notes_norton » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:31 am

PwrHsePro wrote:<...>
In my searching... I am thinking people like me you do mega sequencing are a dying breed... everything seems to be concentrating on manipulation of audio files.... replacing analogue recording gear... but not much for improvements and furtehr developement of the 'automated musician' and environment!


I'm with you. Recording audio is nice, but MIDI is much more editable and much easier to use. I've been using MTPro since the 1980s, first on the Atari, then the Mac (Motorola chips) and finally the PC. It's the easiest and most direct sequencer there is. There have been serious bugs in it for over 10 years now.

I'm saddened that GVox has abandoned it and it's too bad that GVox has abandoned us :(

Personally, I don't think a fix is ever coming.

If anyone finds something to use as a substitute, please let us all know so that we can abandon the company that has abandoned us.
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Re: What's the matter?

Postby Mario » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:20 am

Hi Bob,
You are really angry and disappointed isn't it? I agree with you relating to the sequencer market there isn't any product that compare with MTP. In this case I didn' understand GVOX as there is a market for this product. In my opinion MTP is unrivaled on the sequencer market.

In the meantime I rebuilt a Windows 98 system for the 16-bit MTP 6.01that I bought in 1995 even though I must operate with short filenames. MTP 6.8.4 is not reliable if you save as extension .MID.
On the other hand the Bank select and sysex function would be nice to use but apperantly GVOX has not enough manpower to fix the bugs. It's a pity.
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Re: What's the matter?

Postby notes_norton » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:42 pm

Mario wrote:Hi Bob,
You are really angry and disappointed isn't it? <...>.


I'm disappointed that there have been no updates in MTPro that work since it was purchased from Passport. The 8.3 file name limitation show how old the last working version of MTPro is.

I'm angry that GVox took my money, released a buggy product, and over 10 years later hasn't fixed it or refunded my money. That's just bad business.

I can use continuous controllers to change the banks on my synthesizers, but having MSB and LSB dialog boxes make it much easier to audition the sounds in the upper banks. The pre Windows 95 8.3 file name restriction is a PITA as it always has been.

The fact that they don't have enough staff to fix the bugs doesn't concern me. The fact that they took my money and aren't fixing the bugs does concern me.
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