Chord parsing function not working

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Chord parsing function not working

Postby djigoo » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:37 pm

I recently upgrade my MTD program and am pretty happy with most of the changes, but now I can't get chord parsing to work. When I click on "Chord" and then highlight the note above which I'm trying to enter the chord, as soon as I play the chord on my MIDI input, MTD places three or four chord symbols (none of which is correct) over the highlighted note and the next few notes. Anyone else having this problem? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby polarbreeze » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:23 pm

What happens when you try to use the same keyboard for recording notes into MTD, ie real-time note entry. Does it seem to work OK for that?
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby Denkster » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:07 pm

Beware!
'Chord Parsing' is a misleading term.
The true meaning is: "Shortcuts for Chord Symbol entry".
Study the attached chart to find the right key combination for each chord symbol.
ChordSymbolEntryShortcuts.zip
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby djigoo » Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:26 pm

polar, I'm having problems there as well. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I've been using this same keyboard as my MIDI inputter for years; just a basic Yamaha PSR-GX76. I've only had this problem since the upgrade, and I don't have any problem at all with other programs that use MIDI...So I'm sure the cords and connections are fine.

And denkster, I appreciate the help. I just want to be able to play a chord and have MTD identify it and position it on the score. That function is a BIG time saver for me, and I hope to get it working again.

Windows XP, if that makes a difference.

Thanks!

Drew
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby polarbreeze » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:07 am

So that establishes that it's not the chord parsing function itself that's at fault, but rather MIDI input handling in general. This could still be an MTD problem or another problem outside of MTD.

You are using the same keyboard as has previously worked fine, correct?

How about the MIDI interface:
- What make and model is your MIDI adapter (which sits between your MIDI keyboard and your computer)?
- Have you changed this recently?
- Have you checked that you have the latest drivers installed?
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby djigoo » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:43 pm

"How about the MIDI interface:
- What make and model is your MIDI adapter (which sits between your MIDI keyboard and your computer)?
- Have you changed this recently?
- Have you checked that you have the latest drivers installed?"

My adapter is an EMU o4o4; it's pretty new, and I haven't had any problems with it other than this one.
How would I find the latest drivers?

Thanks!
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby polarbreeze » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:12 pm

djigoo wrote:I don't know what a MIDI adapter is; I just have cables (in and out) running between the keyboard and the computer.
How would I find the latest drivers?
Your keyboard has two round multi-pin sockets on it. They are MIDI-IN and MIDI-OUT. Your connection to the computer is USB (I suppose, please confirm). What goes between them is a cable and an adapter (which converts between USB and MIDI). You need to know the make/model of the adapter. Possibly the adapter is integrated with the cables into one piece, in which case you need to know the make/model of that. When you have that information, you can get the drivers by going to the manufacturer's website and looking in the "support" or "downloads" area.
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby polarbreeze » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:18 pm

djigoo wrote:My adapter is an EMU o4o4; ...
How would I find the latest drivers?
http://www.emu.com/support/files/download3.asp?Centric=764&Platform=1&File=607
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby djigoo » Sat May 01, 2010 3:46 am

I thought that had fixed it, but I'm still having the same problems...but not as severely as before, which strikes me as odd.

Could it be something as simple as replacing my MIDI cables? They're run-of-the-mill cables from Radio Shack.
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby polarbreeze » Sat May 01, 2010 4:25 pm

djigoo wrote:Could it be something as simple as replacing my MIDI cables? They're run-of-the-mill cables from Radio Shack.
I doubt it's your cables - any quality will do the job. But to see if one of them is faulty, you could just swap them (ie change the 'in" for the "out") and see if that makes any difference. I think it's most likely some kind of driver/software problem. You could try uninstalling and re-installing your EMU card.
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby djigoo » Tue May 11, 2010 10:27 pm

I've switched out cords and re-installed my interface drivers and software and I've re-installed MTD4...

....and I'm STILL having issues with random, multiple chords and notes when trying to use my Yamaha keyboard for MIDI input. This is really slowing down my work! Doesn't anyone else have these problems?

Help!
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby djigoo » Fri May 14, 2010 9:20 pm

I just tried another keyboard (M-Audio 49e) with a USB connection, and am having the same problems as before.

I'm really at my wit's end; if ANYBODY has any suggestions, please let me know!
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby polarbreeze » Fri May 14, 2010 10:05 pm

Is it only with Encore or is it with other apps too?
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby djigoo » Sat May 15, 2010 3:56 pm

polarbreeze wrote:Is it only with Encore or is it with other apps too?


It's only with MTD. The keyboards work fine with other musical applications.
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Re: Chord parsing function not working

Postby polarbreeze » Sat May 15, 2010 4:43 pm

This is Windows, right?
Which version of operating system?
Which version of MTD?

Try using a MIDI monitor program (somebody else may be able to direct you to a freeware download). You need to look at the MIDI data to see if it's getting corrupted before or after it arrives at MTD.

Also, disconnect your MIDI Out cable from the PC just in case there's some kind of a weird MIDI feedback loop going on.

Do you have any other MIDI related programs running?
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