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Auto Save for crashes

Postby spikyspikyspiky » Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:39 pm

Trying Encore 5.02 demo. Not clear if this version has Autosave backups for crashes?

I like the way crash recovery is handled in Word 2007 (I only just got it!):

After restarting, a list comes up of 2 versions of each file that was open at crash:
--one is my ORIGINAL, the last time I saved it myself.
--the other is the most recent AUTOSAVE backup version.
And BOTH their timestamps are shown, so I can decide whether the autosaved version truly is preferable to my own last save, and if so click it and it becomes my new saved "original".

This used to be a problem: I save frequently (once per minute?), but I guess Autosave only happened every 10 minutes. So after a crash, the program would say, "We have an Autosave backup copy! Would you like that instead of your own last save?" and after the shock of the crash I would be so relieved and grateful (weeping, genuflecting, you know) that I wouldn't realize my OWN last save was actually 9 minutes better than the Autosave. Seeing timestamps is key when restoring files.

The user should be able to set the frequency and location of autosave backup files. Their autonaming scheme should be intuitive. And they should be accessible directly through the menu, without having to dig around in hidden folders and files.

Reading older posts, people should keep in mind that Autosave backup files never overwrite YOUR saved version of the file (unless you choose to manually replace it). Autosave isn't forcing YOU to save. It's just a separate backup copy for emergencies. So you can still mess around for an hour deliberately not saving, decide you hate it all, and revert to your own last saved version.

And Autosave is not the same as Undo, although I guess people are using it as a workaround for that a lot.
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Re: Auto Save for crashes

Postby stavro » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:27 pm

There is indeed an autosave in Encore 5; and instructions for using which can be found here:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2861&p=18771
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Re: Auto Save for crashes

Postby commnthings » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:37 pm

Stavro wrote:There is indeed an autosave in Encore 5

Dear Stavro,

I don't think the "Save Safe" is actually an "autosave". That would require that Encore automatically save the work in progress every "x" minutes. The "Save Safe" simply stores a duplicate of the file being saved in the "Safe" so that you can get back to it (or any of the previous 18 saved files) should you need to.

I agree that "autosave" wold be a good feature, but it would have to be carefully thought out so that you could still easily get back to the previous version if you really did not want to save the version that just got "autosaved".

Regards,

Bob
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Been using Encore (Rhapsody, Passport) since 1992
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Re: Auto Save for crashes

Postby stavro » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:29 pm

Okay, thanks Bob. I stand corrected; I think you are right and the auto-save request is another function all-together.

Best,

Steve
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